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FreedomFest 2007 The BIG Debate 6of7 Rebuttal D'Souza & Paul

The BIG Debate: U.S. Foreign Policy and the War in Iraq

Libertarians Ron Paul & Doug Casey vs. Conservatives Larry Abraham & Dinesh D'Souza

A summary of the points raised during the rebuttal:

Dinesh D'Souza

* The issue here is not just "the government", it's also what the founders stood for. Libertarians believe the founders stood for liberty. Is liberty only good for us? The principled libertarian, like the founders, believes that liberty is a universal aspiration.
* The idea of 911 as a police action: Memo to our opponents; the guys that did 911 are all dead. If that's the war on terror then you might as well declare it over. What about all the new terrorists coming out of the madrassas committing bombings all over the world?
* The idea that we should pull all of our troops home everywhere and get involved nowhere; if you took this idiotic principle and applied it over the past 100 years...is it the idea that if FDR didn't like Hitler he should go choke him himself?
* Blowback; foreign policy is sometimes about the principle of the lesser evil. Sometimes you ally with the bad guy to get rid of the worse guy. In WW2 we allied with the really bad guy--Stalin--because Hitler posed a greater threat at the time.
* We sold those weapons to Saddam? Non-sense. The U.S. diplomatically tilted towards Iraq in the 80's because Khomeini then posed a greater threat than Saddam.
* It is true we're seeing a blowback. Is the average Muslim in the Sudan or Somalia or Islamabad willing to go to his death because the Palestinians don't have a state? Give me a break. Is the ordinary Muslim willing to kill himself because there are troops in Mecca? There are no troops in Mecca. They're 500 miles away in the Saudi desert. The average Muslim is not saying that in the street.
* What they're saying is: the US is the global head of the unbelievers or the pagans. The US is exporting thorough globalization and free trade values that are undermining Islam, destroying the Muslim family, and corrupting the innocence of Muslim children. Pulling home the troops will not stop that. Their argument is the fundamental values of Islam are being attacked.
* It is American ideas and values that are at the root of this. Either we stand up and fight for them, or we go down with them.

Ron Paul

* If we had respected private property and not used regulation to take away the responsibility to protect passengers from the airlines themselves, it's likely that the pilots of the planes that were used on 911 would have had guns in the cockpit and been able to defend themselves and prevent the event from occurring.
* Now 911 is the excuse for perpetual war. Iraq had nothing to do with 911, yet 911 is the excuse for the initiation of the Iraq invasion.
* Our foreign policy creates conditions for terrorism
* Christian non-intervention means you don't go to war carelessly and you do not preemptively strike a nation that has not threatened you.
* Michael Scheuer is the world expert on Bin Laden who says Ron Paul is the enemy of Al Qaeda because if we take Paul's advice it will remove the primary source of new recruits for Al Qaeda. They like us in their backyard (Iraq) where they can pick us off one by one and wear us down.
* Suicide terrorism's root cause is not radical Islam. Robert Pape's book, Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism notes the top suicide bombing nation is not Islamic -- it happens to be Sri lanka. I was unconvinced he was right, but he convinced me. The top motivation to get someone to commit suicide terrorism is foreign occupation.
* It's the Arabian peninsula that is considered holy land by the terrorists, not just Mecca.
* The fundamental principle of the constitution is non-intervention and minding our own business. If we had embraced that principle all along and apply it in the future we will be much safer.


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Channel: News & Politics
Uploaded: August 25, 2007 at 9:47 pm
Author: Sidewinder77

Length: 00:09:55
Rating: 4.81
Views: 23603

Tags: Ron Paul FreedomFest Liberty Freedom Neo Con Dinesh D'Souza Iraq Philosophy capitalism force theft libertarian

Video Comments:
orgasmicide2 (January 3, 2009 at 5:05 am)
I wonder what sheikh D'Souza was referring to...
theunbubba (January 2, 2009 at 2:32 am)
Mr D'Souza,
If you don't have to defeat your opponents why are you not president? How Many people voted for you?
Did they block you out with an evil eye?
Get a clue. Nobody would ever vote for you because you are a petulant twit.
GabrielKoulikov (December 23, 2008 at 2:55 am)
I really wish Alan Keyes was a part of this debate.
return135 (December 13, 2008 at 5:50 pm)
love ya Ron Paul but ya gotta slow down your talking. lol
metalmike06 (November 15, 2008 at 2:01 am)
Ron Paul is talking so fast.
Traxtitan (October 17, 2008 at 11:39 am)
I really Dislike D'Souza. He refuses to debate anyone on there own home turf, and says the same things in every debate. Literally, word for word, the same things. Like he is reading a speech. Even down to his Mosquito joke, which he also used while debating Hitchens.
VoiceOfModeration (November 8, 2008 at 9:45 pm)
thats what she said
DTownhippie (October 16, 2008 at 12:40 am)
Osama Bin Laden knew he couldn't destroy the U.S. externally, so he is bankrupting us, his plan is succeeding and by trying to occupy practicallyh the whole middle east in an effort to promote freedom? Wheres the economic freedom and civil freedom in paying for a war, and making our troops go over there when they are constitutionally suppose to defend our coountry, not invade and occupy others.
Jakeblood240 (September 20, 2008 at 5:49 pm)
Ron Paul's kookiness out in full force. Wonder if he knows he's wasting his time.
AngriestAmerican (August 16, 2008 at 4:18 pm)
Hey Dude, enlist,get your tin pot and gun,,ill sit here eat and drink get fat, dream about Britney Spears, and ill be rooting for you to shoot some Jihadists,,
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